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The Making of Billie Eilish’s ‘Hit Me Hard and Soft’

Billie Eilish held nothing back in her most recent Rolling Stone cover story — and amidst her many personal revelations, she also went deep on the making of her new album, Hit Me Hard and Soft. As Finneas, her brother, producer, and co-writer told Rolling Stone‘s Angie Martoccio — in a quote that was immediately picked up everywhere — the pair intended to make an “album-ass album,” their most cohesive statement ever. The songs twist and turn as they go, sometimes moving from balladry to tranced-out dance beats along the way, and more than one track is a multi-part suite.

In the new episode of Rolling Stone Music Now, Martoccio shares what she learned from Eilish and Finneas about the process behind the album, from the way “Skinny” led to the Barbie soundtrack smash “What Was I Made For,” to the origin of the dance-y section of “L’Amour De Ma Vie”: “It was just because Billie one day asked Finneas as a joke, ‘Can you make me something that I can do cardio to?’”

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