“One of my secrets,” Snoop Dogg tells Latto in their recent Musicians on Musicians conversation, “is that I remain the biggest kid in the room at all times.” The new episode of Rolling Stone Music Now includes highlights of that interview (moderated by Rolling Stone staff writer Andre Gee) along with the two interviews from our first-ever live Musicians on Musicians event: Lil Yachty‘s conversation with Tierra Whack (moderated by Rolling Stone’s supervising producer of news video, Delisa Shannon), and a meeting of the minds between Jon Batiste and Gucci Mane.
The episode includes the massively viral moment when Yachty offers his no-holds-barred opinion of the state of hip-hop: “That shit sucks… The place that hip hop is in right now is a terrible place,” along with Yachty’s discussion of how Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon changed his entire conception of music’s possibility. (For the full episode, go here for the podcast provider of your choice, listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, or just press play above.)
Elsewhere, Batiste and Gucci find a surprising amount of common ground, fervently disagreeing with the idea that great art requires hardship. “Do I want to go through those times to please my fans? Hell no,” Gucci says.
Adds Batiste, “I think hard times inspire you to make something that you wouldn’t make if you weren’t under the pressure of that. But I also think you can make great stuff and be super happy in your life. And I think that’s a myth that I don’t really buy into. I think we have to stop the myth of the tortured artist having to be so under it.”
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